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Which non sedimentary blues make for a good sky blue?

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Hiya Nikki......Well so far I haven't received any replies at all......as far as I know. So it looks like it might be a case of suck-it-and-see. If like me, you're looking for a sky blue which doesn't leave rocks all over your painting, then you need a transparent watercolour. There are only two transparent blues.......cyanine, and phthalocyanine blue, which I've yet to try. I was told to try cerullian (I think that's how you spell it) blue, which is an opaque watercolour. But after a rudimentary test, I found that it still doesn't give the desired effect.

However, I've just discovered that Dr Marten's make liquid watercolours, which is something I never knew existed, so I'll be giving their blues a go. I also intend to give some blue ink a try...........I hope I find a blue which works sooner rather than later, because it's costing me a small fortune to find out what DOESN'T work.......pft!

P.S. Using proper watercolour paper/board makes a huge difference to the finish you get.

Nikki said:

Hi Mark. I'm waiting on reading your replies to this question. It's a fabulous question cause I was wondering the same thing lol. Flick me a msg when you get a response please my friend. X

I have to disagree with your comment about cerulean blue being non-transparent.  Perhaps it´s due to the extent that I water the color down, but I find it quite transparent and great for sky colors.

The truth of the matter is that I'm rubbish with watercolours R L. I find them hard work, so I do very little experimenting with them and find it all to easy to give up and go back to my pen & ink.........but thanks for the tip.

At times I feel the same about watercolor, but after taking lessons from an accomplished watercolorist I learned to let go and enjoy the color.  It does require taking pains and so after a few weeks of using watercolors I feel a need to break off and do something easier in acrylics. I did review your posted work and was impressed with both the portrait work and landscapes.  In fact, they were somewhat astonishing.  You must have given your work lots of time over lots of years?  I am three years into doing it full-time and have noticed the improvement that comes with dedication... so I trudge on :)

Pains and discipline where watercolours are concerned R L., and it's the discipline I have problems with. There's a lot involved with watercolours, and if your main medium's as easy to deal with as ink is, then you'll understand why my discipline slips. My problem is that I'm only playing with it, and that I'd just like to know enough to add some colour to my line & wash pics........and that knowledge only comes with experience.

Thanks for your comments on my pics R L. I've been drawing/painting ever since I was old enough to pick up a crayon (a long time ago), but I've only been using ink for about the last eighteen months, so I'm still learning.

As for improvement coming with dedication........what I've learnt over the years is, the more you do, the better you get.......it's a given. :o)

Hallo Mark.
wenn ich Sie richtig verstanden habe, so suchen Sie ein transparentes Blau für den Himmel. Hier in Nordeuropa ist Kobaltblau die dominierende Farbe und im Süden mehr Ultramarin. Das Original Kobalt ist opaque. Bei Schmincke gibt es den "Kobaltblauton" als Alternative. Coellinblau ist scharf und Pthalocyanin kalt.
Hello Mark.
if I have understood you correctly, you are looking for a transparent blue for the sky. Here in Northern Europe is cobalt blue is the dominant color and the south more ultramarine. The original cobalt is opaque. When there is the Schmincke "Kobaltblauton" as an alternative. Coellinblau is sharp and pthalocyanine cold.
Ernst

Danke Ernst, ist diese Art von Informationen von unschätzbarem Wert.

I concur with Nikki. The liquid watercolors are true and very transparent without sedimentation.

Mark Bedwell said:

Hiya Nikki......Well so far I haven't received any replies at all......as far as I know. So it looks like it might be a case of suck-it-and-see. If like me, you're looking for a sky blue which doesn't leave rocks all over your painting, then you need a transparent watercolour. There are only two transparent blues.......cyanine, and phthalocyanine blue, which I've yet to try. I was told to try cerullian (I think that's how you spell it) blue, which is an opaque watercolour. But after a rudimentary test, I found that it still doesn't give the desired effect.

However, I've just discovered that Dr Marten's make liquid watercolours, which is something I never knew existed, so I'll be giving their blues a go. I also intend to give some blue ink a try...........I hope I find a blue which works sooner rather than later, because it's costing me a small fortune to find out what DOESN'T work.......pft!

P.S. Using proper watercolour paper/board makes a huge difference to the finish you get.

Nikki said:

Hi Mark. I'm waiting on reading your replies to this question. It's a fabulous question cause I was wondering the same thing lol. Flick me a msg when you get a response please my friend. X

Hiya Norma,

You are a star!

I'd completely forgotten about liquid watercolours, and I know that they're all transparent, including cobalt blue. Apparently they're great for achieving smooth even washes......just what I'm looking for.

So I've just ordered a 15ml bottle of Dr Ph Marten's cobalt blue.........I'll let you know what I think. :o)

Thank you.

Have a nice day,

Mark.

Norma Folse said:

I concur with Nikki. The liquid watercolors are true and very transparent without sedimentation.

Mark Bedwell said:

Hiya Nikki......Well so far I haven't received any replies at all......as far as I know. So it looks like it might be a case of suck-it-and-see. If like me, you're looking for a sky blue which doesn't leave rocks all over your painting, then you need a transparent watercolour. There are only two transparent blues.......cyanine, and phthalocyanine blue, which I've yet to try. I was told to try cerullian (I think that's how you spell it) blue, which is an opaque watercolour. But after a rudimentary test, I found that it still doesn't give the desired effect.

However, I've just discovered that Dr Marten's make liquid watercolours, which is something I never knew existed, so I'll be giving their blues a go. I also intend to give some blue ink a try...........I hope I find a blue which works sooner rather than later, because it's costing me a small fortune to find out what DOESN'T work.......pft!

P.S. Using proper watercolour paper/board makes a huge difference to the finish you get.

Nikki said:

Hi Mark. I'm waiting on reading your replies to this question. It's a fabulous question cause I was wondering the same thing lol. Flick me a msg when you get a response please my friend. X

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