Not sure if this is acceptable, but this project is actually not done yet. Just thought I'd share what is consuming all my free time. I've never attempted buildings or structures before. You can see the photo I'm using as reference in the lower right and also a bit on the left. It will be 16 x 20 when it's done....if that ever happens. This is an alleyway in Jaffa Israel.

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This looks incredible thus far what an undertaking great job.

Hi TJ... looking good so far... bring it on!... I am always looking at textures and shapes in photographs.. I spend a lot of time sketching them, making notes on what I used to render them etc.  I keep the sketches in my reference files.

I very rarely draw or paint from memory... I aways use reference photos or drawings. Everyone knows what cat looks like, but I doubt anyone could accurately paint one from memory.

Cheers

Thanks Cat! I must need my head examined, actually. I've probably got more than 60 hours of work in that portion, so far. I actually don't know if I'll ever finish! haha. :)

Cat Demkiw said:

This looks incredible thus far what an undertaking great job.

Thanks Dallas! That is encouraging to me, because I actually thought I might be the only artist who couldn't draw stuff right out of their head. Well, I probably could draw stuff right out of my head, but no one would recognize it! Thanks for the tips too! You've always got good tips.

Dallas Nyberg said:

Hi TJ... looking good so far... bring it on!... I am always looking at textures and shapes in photographs.. I spend a lot of time sketching them, making notes on what I used to render them etc.  I keep the sketches in my reference files.

I very rarely draw or paint from memory... I aways use reference photos or drawings. Everyone knows what cat looks like, but I doubt anyone could accurately paint one from memory.

Cheers

Thanks TJ..... When I teach art, I always tell my classes.. Never consider the last artwork you did, the best you've ever done... tell yourself,  the next one you do will be even better.

Cheers

Tj Voelker said:

Thanks Dallas! That is encouraging to me, because I actually thought I might be the only artist who couldn't draw stuff right out of their head. Well, I probably could draw stuff right out of my head, but no one would recognize it! Thanks for the tips too! You've always got good tips.

Dallas Nyberg said:

Hi TJ... looking good so far... bring it on!... I am always looking at textures and shapes in photographs.. I spend a lot of time sketching them, making notes on what I used to render them etc.  I keep the sketches in my reference files.

I very rarely draw or paint from memory... I aways use reference photos or drawings. Everyone knows what cat looks like, but I doubt anyone could accurately paint one from memory.

Cheers

Good advice! Have a marvelous day, Dallas!

Thanks TJ.. you too... BTW - check out my new discussion.. you might find it interesting... Cheers

Tj Voelker said:

Good advice! Have a marvelous day, Dallas!

cool, I will, what is it and where do I find it?

It's in the forums - General Art Room - It looks better... upside down

Tj Voelker said:

cool, I will, what is it and where do I find it?

Hello, TJ,

I am just learning to use color pencils...and here I see how wonderful and thick your work looks so i wonder, Do you use some heat method to melt the pencil wax like that???  I saw someone talking about "heat" but I didn't know what they were talking about and i needed to ask this question somewhere. Your post has just what I am looking to do so I thought to just ask you. Or is it a special paper or board that holds the material better so it will get thick??

I started by working in sketch on an extra sheetrock piece I had laying about. I know not the best material, but I was just testing to see what they would do. I keep piling the color on and it still looks like my crayon book with all the little line marks. It is a bit better on the Bristle Board regular..but it is not so much like paint as this work you have done...or are doing?

I love the way you use the warm colors and exciting textures, but that is questions for another time.  

And Dallas if you have input I would love to hear from you too. I don't know where or how to ask general questions like this one. 

Thank you for the nice words, Unruly Orange!! I really appreciate it. I make small circles, lightly, and just keep building layers and layers of color. It really takes quite a bit, and you have to be careful not to get too heavy handed too quickly, as it will cause the color to chip and then you have a large boo boo to fix! I just do the layers and once I have what I think I want, I use a colorless wax pencil and go over the color I just laid down, again, in small circles, only with more pressure (not a lot of pressure, but more than the other times) until it shines. I've tried the "blending pens" that are sort of like a colorless sharpie, but didn't like it. It washes the color out.
I learned how to do this by reading a "how to" teaching, online. Here is the link:
http://www.dueysdrawings.com/colored_pencil_tutorial.html
I did my first drawing with colored pencils, after that. Check my page for it. It's called First Fruits. The next one I did was the one of the hand. That's where I found out, the hard way, about applying the color too quickly. You can find the questions and answers to how to fix that here:
http://community.art-is-fun.com/forum/topics/colored-pencil-help
I use 140 lb. watercolor paper to do my drawings, both pencil and colored pencil. The First Fruits one though was just paper from a sketch pad. The color went on easier with that (less layers needed), but I'm afraid the paper won't hold up as long. The hand I did was on 140 lb. watercolor paper and the WIP here is also on the same 140 lb. watercolor paper. It takes more layers, but it's easier to fix if you mess up.
I hope this helps and thanks again!

Hi Unruly, I gave you some wrong info. I am not sure what weight the paper I am using is. It's somewhere between 100-140 lb. and not sure because I bought a whole bunch of it about 25 years ago and there is no record of what weight it is. The First Fruit is 80 lb. and the other two are much thicker, but not as thick as the new 140 lb. cold press that I just got, so not sure of what the actual weight is. It's BK Rivas from France. Not many people have heard of it. It's like Arches, if you've heard of that brand.

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