Not sure where to put this, but I hope the mods will move it.

Or, as is often the case, I'm the last to learn about this LOL

I'm on a budget, but that hasn't stopped me from continuing to buy supplies looking for that magic combination. Yesterday, I bought the set of 36 Bic Markit markers because I saw some Youtubes showing how easily they "blend" hah. That didnt work.

So I dragged out all the markers in my storage room and tried to achieve that magic Copic marker look.

By the way, I bought about 100 Copic markers, but still I never had the right color.

What I discovered is that Crayola watercolor markers have, wait for it ...... Water!

And watercolor pencils need, wait for it ....... Water!

So, I lay down some watercolor pencil. Build it up to Mae the colr more intense, or lay it lightly for a lighter shade.

Then go over the pencil with a crayola watercolor marker. Either a matching colr or contrasting etc. depending on he look you're going for.

Nice blend from light to dark.

Enjoy.

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Hi Margaret,

I actually hadn't heard about Crayola Watercolor Markers - are they different from normal Crayola markers?

Your technique sounds neat, if you have any examples you'd like to share I'd love to see it!

Funny that you mentioned Copics, because I just got about 70 or so Copic markers for my birthday. So far I've only had time to experiment with them, and that's been fun. I've been figuring out how to use them and what I can do with them. I can already see though how you need a lot of markers to achieve the smoothest blending of all the hues. I've been thinking of using them with my Prismacolor colored pencils to help compensate for some of the Copic colors I don't have.

Btw and off-topic: I'm still enjoying the Procreate app a whole lot, and I have you to thank for telling me about it! :)

I'm glad to hear you are enjoying Procreate.

The Crayola markers are "washable", the packaging doesn't mention "watercolor", that was my term for them. Water based might be closer to what they are.

I don't know about other crayola markers.

I'll see if I can work up some examples. I'm excited because I have 50 colors of the washable markers and nearly that many watercolor pencils. The number of possible combinations is mind boggling. By the way I use the smooth side of Strathmore water color paper. The watercolor pencils are Derwent Inktense, Derwent watercolor, and some Staedler.


And an added bonus? No mess!

Oh neat, it turns out I have Crayola markers (Super Tips) and watercolor pencils (Staedtler and Prismacolor) so when I have more time I'll give your technique a go! I definitely like the sound of no mess, as well as minimal preparation and clean up. ;)

This all very interesting. I started using colored pencil with markers just to save time with layering colored pencil. I am finding this technique more and more interesting as I blend in different ways to get different effects. I have now added watercolor into the mix especially when using paper with a lot of texture. I have never heard of Copic . They look very pricey. Do you think there is a big difference between Copic and Sharpies or Crayola? Thanks

There is quite a difference between Copic and Sharpies. The Copics blend more evenly I think and the colors are not as intense.

I liked the Copics, but it seemed that no matter how many I bought, I still didn't have the "right" color LOL

Also, for the price, I felt that they didn't hold much ink. They are refillable, but the refill ink was expensive.

In short, none of my artistic endeavors required such expensive supplies.

Thank you for this information Margaret . I agree,Sharpies are a very intense color,  too strong to use for mixing. I am looking for a pen that will cover more evenly but can't afford the Copics. I'll put them on my Birthday,Xmas lists. In the mean time I will try the Crayola. Thanks 

Just another thought , have you tried Staedtler pens and markers? These are a reasonable price with very good color but not water soluble. I start with colored pencil first, then pen and back to pencil to archive the  desired color. 

I have tried the Staedler pens, but not markers. I think I have some Staedler watercolor pencils too. I'll look for markers.

Another thing I tried and like is making a colorless Crayola marker. I found a watercolor pencil "blender" at Michaels and it looked exactly like the fine tip Crayola markers I've been using.

So I took that really ugly color washable marker and stood it up in some water. The water leeched the color out of the tip and it worked as good as the one I bought. Eventually the color in the marker found its way back to the tip so I just repeated the water treatment.
Another neat trick. I have this big set of Bic Mark-It markers that I can't seem to blend. I'd like to use them for something :(

I also have an assortment of "blending" pens. A few of them say "for colored pencil". Well, colored pencils I've got in abundance. But, no matter how I color and blend, I never can get the colored pencils to cover the whole area. Rest assured I take full responsibility for my failure in this regard!

Can you guess where this is going?

So, I used a light colored Bic marker and filled in an area. Then I shaded part of it using a Derwent Colorsoft pencil in a darker shade. Then I used one of the colored pencil blending pens to "blend" the colored pencil and drag it out a bit. Pretty good result!

Because the blending pens are a bit pricey, I'm going to try the old standby mineral spirits.

To reduce the mess of using mineral spirits, I take an empty pill bottle, stuff some "Mr. Clean Magic Eraser" into it, pour in just enough mineral spirits to moisten the eraser and then use a small paint brush to apply to the art piece. The advantage of this is that after working on the drawing, the brush will have picked up some color. A bit of back and forth over the mineral spirit saturated magic eraser will clean the brush!

Lots of good ideas here Margaret. What type of paper are you using? Is it possible for you to post a few pictures of the results you are getting? I'm going back into the lab for more experiments. Thanks

The drawing above was done with a poppy red Derwent Inktense pencil and a bright yellow Crayola washable marker. The one darker petal was a mistake. I added some blue pencil and that happened. I applied the red pencil first and then went over it with the marker. I used Strathmore watercolor paper on the smooth side. I tried another less costly brand of paper and didn't like the results.

The drawing above was done with the pencils and marker in the picture. The result might not be to everyone's taste, but it works for me. This was done on Strathmore Bristol paper.

Thank you for posting these illustrations Margaret, beautiful results. I like the bottom one the best and will experiment with you technique. Thanks.

Margaret Brock said:

The drawing above was done with a poppy red Derwent Inktense pencil and a bright yellow Crayola washable marker. The one darker petal was a mistake. I added some blue pencil and that happened. I applied the red pencil first and then went over it with the marker. I used Strathmore watercolor paper on the smooth side. I tried another less costly brand of paper and didn't like the results.

The drawing above was done with the pencils and marker in the picture. The result might not be to everyone's taste, but it works for me. This was done on Strathmore Bristol paper.

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